Eurobike in Trouble? Bosch Walks Out + Best E-Bikes for Stairs & Big Riders
Hello everybody and welcome in. I’m Griffin and I’m John. And as always, we have a very full episode for you, including Eurobike, one of the industry’s biggest trade shows. But is it in trouble? Sadly, that might be the case. Also, we’re going to look at bikes we recommend if you have to hike them up some stairs. Give you a hint, it’s got to be light. That’s right. And bikes we like for big and tall riders, primarily riding on throttle only power. We have tons of ebike recommendations in the Q&A section of this episode of the Weekly Recharge. All right, diving straight into the news here with our leading story of Eurobike. So Bosch and two major trade associations have parted ways with Eurobike. So the future is a little uncertain where it’s going to go from here. So this was once the premier trade show of the whole world really. Eurobike did struggle however this last year in attendance compared to the year before. It still featured 1500 exhibitors though and over 60,000 attendees. So, it’s not not like it’s entirely died off by any means. Sure. However, it did have some noticeable missing groups this year like Stram, DTSwiss, Pawn Bike, and Campolo all skipping the event. Now, it seems to be losing even more support with European cycling industry types pulling out of the show. In an article from bicycle retailer, a joint statement from Ziv and I’m going to try my hardest, John. Zukun Farad, the two biggest trade associations of germinating. Thank you. Uh said the following. Following lengthy discussions with the Eurobike operators, we have decided to end our cooperation. We could not see the that both operators were equally committed to supporting the measures that would be necessary to make the trade fair fit for the future of the bicycle industry. Now, the show has also seen Bosch pull away, which is of course one of the premier names in eBike motors. The CEO of Bosch eBike Systems, Klaus uh Flecher, said that after extensive discussions with Eurobike, they no longer saw a successful future for Eurobike, according to a Pink Bike article. That’s disappointing. So, there will still be a 2026 show, although it is shaping up to be a smaller event in terms of exhibitors, and it is now 4 days instead of five. So, some have suggested that part of the downward trend could be due to the fact that no one really knows what the show fully is anymore because there is kind of lack of clarity. Is it a trade show? Is it a consumer festival? Is it mobility expo? And it’s kind of struggling to be all of them at once in like some respects. Now, our own Justin was actually at Eurobike last year and was pretty impressed with it and all of the offerings that there were there, but you know, again, seems to be a little bit on the decline. So, some questions I’ve got, is this going to be a good thing for, you know, the Otter Classic here in the States? Is this going to be a boon for China cycle? Are we going to see vendors go, you know, to other shows or maybe put more importance on those ones? or is this just going to be a good thing with major players dropping off of Eurobike. Does this just give more room for smaller upand cominging things to shine? I guess time will tell, but kind of interesting development for Eurobike there. It definitely is. I mean, you know, I feel like things just naturally evolve in unexpected ways sometimes, and I think that might be the case here, but we’ll we’ll see how it plays out. But anyway, our next story is from the state of California. So, uh, their ebike incentive project has been retired very quietly, uh, in favor of a hybrid or EV car initiative. So, the program initially had $30 million in funding to apply towards vouchers for ebikes. And the goal of the program was to give low-income residents uh, a chunk of money toward the p purchase of an ebike, somewhere between $1,000 and $2,500 depending on where they lived and the ebike that they were purchasing. So, the program was originally planned to launch in 2022, but there were a bunch of delays that pushed it back to 2024. And so, then when it launched the first time, there were only 1,500 vouchers and the website crashed because there were just so many people trying to apply for it. Um, they could not handle that that load. Um, but then some vouchers did end up getting distributed at the end of the year. Um, but then there was a more uh well, yeah, I guess more attempts this year. The first of those was also delayed due to some technical issues that wouldn’t let people into the waiting room online. Uh but then the most recent attempt, which was back in May, actually went relatively smoothly. Um but there were still only a very limited supply of vouchers. So most of the applicants didn’t get them. So the uh program up until, you know, recently here used about $13 million of its total 30 million. Um, but the the organization that runs runs or ran it called the California Air Resources Board basically just redirected the remaining funds of $17 million to a new program called Clean Cars for All. And it has a similar goal, just cars instead of bikes, basically to make low and no emission vehicles more accessible and affordable to low-income residents. Um, so that organization didn’t make any statement about the fact that the ebike incentive program was going away. Um, but yeah, I mean, you know, it’s disappointing to say the least. I mean, the the goal of reducing emissions in cars is great, but um, you know, we support bikes. We like seeing people out on bikes. It’s an alternative mode of transport. It’s more affordable. Um, you know, yeah, just kind of, it’s kind of a bummer to see it like taken, you know, this is going from the mouths of bikes into the mouths of cars instead basically, which is kind of I’m very torn on this. On the one hand, I I mean, I drive an electric vehicle myself. I’m pro EVs in that regard. At the same time though, I’m pro bike. I think there’s health benefits there. There is, you know, society could stand to benefit a little bit from a more balanced approach of how much we emphasize cars and bikes. Totally. Um, so pretty torn on this decision. Would have preferred to see it stay a bike dedicated program, seeing 13 of those 30 million funds go towards bikes. Didn’t even get quite halfway. Um, and especially if you’re comparing things for the affordability sake, the more affordable ebike is always going to be far less expensive than the most affordable car. So, if you really want to help the low-inccome ones, I still feel like bikes are a great way to do that. Again, overall, I’m kind of torn. You guys let us know what you think about the shift in funds, especially like Californians out there watching. Uh, and let us know your take on it as well. Yeah, I feel like, you know, California is a big state. There’s a lot of people that live there. So the more residents that could have been put on bikes, you know, that would have encouraged the growth of better infrastructure, but you know, uh maybe that’s that’s not the case going forward. It seems like they learned a lot of lessons during the delayed imple, you know, implementation of this program, but um I you know, personally was hoping to see them apply those to making it better in the future, but maybe it’ll come back. We’ll see. I was like fingers crossed on that front. Yep. Um there is a new bike to talk about this week and that is two new bikes. That’s right. the uh we’ll start things off with the 10ways way farer. So this is the latest cruiser model from them. Looks like a nice all-arounder too. It’s available in two different colors, a silver and blue. It is a step through bike. And 10ways is using a 500 watt nominal uh hub motor this time for the first time and a 750 watt peak and 65 new meters of torque. So good amount of power here. So additionally, it also includes 28 mph top speeds. 720watth battery with range up to 85 mi with help from a torque sensor. A suspension fork and suspension seat post. has an adjustable stem for dialing in the fit. Comes with hydraulic brakes, an MK rear rack, and 27 1.5x 2.6 all-terrain tires. Also has a little bit of security with Apple find my builtin. And there’s a new 10ways app as well that looks to be compatible with the bike. Interesting. So, early bird pricing has it at $1899 right now. Um, so looks like pretty good and fair pricing in today’s terms. And you know, John and I have had a not so secret soft spot for the 10ways AGO X. And we’ve also been really impressed with the Sego 600 Pro. So, we’ve been fans of 10ways bikes in the past. Have high hopes for this one as well, just being a good, smooth, solid, allaround ride. Yeah, this reminds me maybe a little bit of the Euphree Solar Sparrow that you reviewed earlier this year and also the uh Veltric Breeze one. So, hopefully if it continues in that in that vein and in 10 ways, you know, path and yeah, some of those lighter cruisers that are still like highly capable, like the definition of cruiser, it’s not like all about like super relaxed whatever anymore. You can get a lot done on them. So, yeah, hopefully it kind of like, you know, meets standards of those other ones cuz fingers crossed that we get our hands on it soon. That’s right. But uh anyway, Marin Bikes announces the Lombard e-road gravel bike. Um so this is based on uh the analog Lombard or Lombard. I pronunciation is not my strong suit. Anyway, uh so that bike started as a road bike but kind of evolved over time uh for multi-surface riding. It originally was released in 2019. Uh, so this new electric version of the bike has a Bosch drive system that features an SX Sprint motor that has 60 N meters of torque and 600 watts of peak power. And then it is also paired with a integrated 400watth battery. And Marin uh made a statement about the bike that says, “This isn’t just a gravel bike with a motor slapped on. It’s a multi-surface drop bar dream machine that laughs at all terrain changes.” Uh, pretty bold there. But it also said, “With this kind of power and versatility, the world literally opens up to your wheels, and that’s the whole point.” Which I thought was pretty cool. Uh, so some other specs here. This bike also has a 28 m perph top speed. There’s an aluminum frame with a carbon fork, so pretty pretty interesting there. Uh, up to 50 mm of tire clearance, so plenty of room for larger gravel tires. Uh, you have four frame sizes, small, medium, large, and extra large. And then it’s just loaded with mounts for water, water, bottles, bags, you know, whatever you want to equip your bike with. Uh, and then there are two builds here. So, the base model is the Lombard E1 that is going to be priced at $42.99. That one has a 12-speed Shimano GRX drivetrain and then uh Shimano GRX hydraulic disc brakes. But then there’s the higherend model, the Lombard E2. That’s $1,000 more. And that one has the Shimano Di2 wireless shifting setup there as well as a Trans X dropper seat post. These are not yet available for purchase. Uh I was looking at Marin’s website yesterday and it it featured a Lombard, but it was only the analog one. So hopefully we will see this one soon. Uh and I imagine that uh Mike, our fellow reviewer here uh over at EBR, he uh is our gravel guy. I think he’s going to be stoked for this one. I’m sure he’s looking at this with a lot of hunger. You know, I think it’s really interesting just overall that motor power we’re talking about. 600 watt peak 60 new m. I remember like early on like the road and gravel crowd like it was all about keep weight as light as humanly possible. Just add like another 10 20% of boost to what a rider can already do. I feel like it’s kind of following a similar trend like with mountain bikes where it’s like okay well let’s try giving people even more power. Maybe they’re going to enjoy that. We’re starting to see that creep up and up and up and I’m very curious to see how this one does cuz 60 nm meters 600 watts on a on a road and gravel bike that can you can do a lot of like fun stuff with that. So, very interested to see this one when it’s uh fully available. I’m curious to see what the weight is going to end up being. And um I’m also happy to see, at least from the photos anyway, that it looks like the battery is removable for charging, which I feel like you don’t often run into with uh you know, lighter weight bikes. A hit or miss on those ones. So, pretty interesting. But anyway, that does it for this week’s news. Griffin, I know I know you’re sad about this, but I’m sad about nothing. It’s the trivia section and Griffin lost last time. So, he’s got to wear the electric biker board helmet cap. Still think it’s a Dun cap. I think it’s a helmet of pride, but whatever. That’s fine. I will. That was my initial idea. Someone tightened this down weirdly. Okay, that’s ripping my head off. Is that you’ve had too many Reese’s. Too many Reese’s that went to my head. All right, we’ve all had too many Reese’s this week. Anywh who, all right, time to play trivia here in the office and you can follow along at home to test your industry knowledge. Christina leading us off. What is our first question? All right, number one. What year was Eurobike started? A 1987, B 1999, C 2003, or D 1991. Okay. And flip it. Both of you are correct. D 1991. Great year. I was born that year. Oh, you’re such a baby. 34 years old. All right. Okay. Ready for question number two? Mhm. How many people attended China cycle 2025? A lot. A. 82,000. B. 156,000. C. 275,000 or D 112,000. Well, we know two people. Oh, wait, Michael. They didn’t go to China cycle. No, they went to China. Oh, they did, didn’t they? So, I can guarantee it’s at least two. So, it’s at least two. Okay. Oh, we got differing differing opinions. Griffin takes the lead. Dang it. B 156,02 people that we know that we shoe for Griffin. That’s all right. I’m coming back for one to one or two to one. Keep this helmet warm for you, buddy. It’s gonna be back on your head before I know it. All right. What is the largest cycling festival in the United States currently? I can’t write this whole thing upside down. Uh, this is going to be good. I hope one of them’s backwards. It’s not. Okay. And a flippity flip. Yes. The sea otter classic. He didn’t put classics, so his is not technically correct. He just listed down. Yeah, the answer says sea otter. I’m impressed you didn’t misspell any of those words. Have you ever been to the restaurant where people have to write their name upside down cuz the paper had they like paper on the tables. I was always impressed with those people. It was like an Italian restaurant in Portland. Have you ever written your name upside down? No. Okay. I’ve never needed a game where you like have to do it in a mirror like using the mirror. But anyway, all right. Next one. Okay. Who is the largest bicycle manufacturer in 2025? A Specialized, B Trek, C Giant, or D Pawn Holdings. They’re stumped. They’re thinking correct. C giant. Giant for a reason. All right. Which ebike weighs the least? A. Roadster V3, B. Electric XP Light 2, C. Aventon Sulttera 2.5 or D the Utopia carbon one step through H. Is it Utopia or Eurtopia? Ertopia. Utopia. Ertopia. Maybe he must had spellch check on and changed it. Gotcha. Wait, hang on. Sorry. People already know my answer. I’m already committed. I I can put the Jeopardy music on if it helps. Okay, I’m going with this. All right, that is correct. Good news. The Utopia Carbon 1 Step 3 weighs in at 412 lbs tested weight. Oh, with the battery included. Cool. Oh, he also has a quick note. Quick note. Uh, all of these ebikes weigh under 50 lbs. Yeah, that’s true. The XP Lite is the heaviest of the four. So, those were actually all really close in weight, probably. Yeah, I was going to say it was a thinker for sure. Kudos to you guys. Thanks. All right. What? Still coming for you, Griffin. Hot on your heels. I mean, I’m in the I’m in the lead here, John. By one. Oh, by one. I’ll take the victory, however big the margin. Okay. What month and year did Electric sell its 500,000th ebike? A. June 2025, B. November 2024, C. August 2023, or D March 2024. Mhm. John’s got his I don’t know face on. It’s real close between two. So, I’m gonna go this one. Which mean Do you need me to read them again? No. Nope. Okay. You are both incorrect. What? The answer is B. November 2024. Dang it. Really? Was that your other one, John? Uh, I think my other one was C. Oh, so you were wrong no matter what. Well, as long as we’re both wrong, I maintain my lead. That’s all that matters. One more job. Just one. One more. What do we do for a tie? Do you guys both have to wear a Tell me. Um, we arm wrestle. Oh, okay. I got you, Griffin. Okay. Pick a question. Which ebike has a higher men power range test? A. Velri Discover 2, B. Cicada Touring, C. Ride one up Vorsa or D Aventon Aabound SR. Those one more time. Uh, A, Bellatric Discover Tup. Okay. B, Cicada Touring. C, Ride OneUp Vorsa, or D, Aventon Abound SR. Okay, I have an advantage here. What? Oh snap. Oh snap. It’s a tie. John got it right. B. The Cicada Touring comes in at 121 seconds on that review. I haven’t checked the database since you started it. What? Snap. What are we doing? A tie. Yeah. Uh, do I need to come up with a random question? Oh, wait. I can’t do that. Let’s just put the put the helmet. It’s fine. It’ll it’ll it’ll rest on the table for the next round and we’ll declare a victor on the next time. But how did you guys do following along? Let us know down in the comments below. All right, time for the weekly peak behind the curtain here. So, uh, once again, we have not received anything new in the world of ebikes. Uh, but we did have a couple things go live. Those were both your reviews, Griffin. So, you want to walk us through those? Sure thing. So, we had the Ertopia Carbon Classic go live. Now, this was a really awesome bike because made waves like originally with like, you know, the AI like powered ebike and stuff like that. They had the unique dot matrix display thing and then you know they kind of just came out with a different bike that’s like well what if we pair it down a little bit and just focus on like the bike bike bike bike bike bike bike bike bike bike bike bike bike bike bike bike bike bike bike bike bike and that’s exactly what you’re getting here. It’s really lightweight carbon very affordable too around like $2,000. Um still got really good peppy motor. Uh you can really cruise nice and easily on flats. Good handling to it as well. So for those who don’t need the bells and whistles or the cutting edge, you know, AI, whatever, this is going to be the bike for you. It just keeps all the other benefits and keeps the focus there. and adds a throttle, right? Indeed it does. Um, and then we also had the Saras Freedom bike uh hitch rack go live. So, this one is like an intentionally kind of like feature light rack. The main focuses here was Sarah’s giving a very affordable option. It’s one of the cheapest racks they produce at about $500. And then it’s very lightweight as well. One of my personal favorite things about it. I’ve tested like a dozen or more racks at this point. And it’s like the easiest one to install and to take off just by myself. And it comes with an adapter anyway. So, it’s good for one and a quarter or 2 in hitch receivers. So, um it’s straightforward and functional. Again, if you’re looking for something lightweight and easy to manage, then take a look at that review as well. Sounds like it gives you a lot of freedom living up to its name. This episode would not be complete without at least one John pun. I got to keep those coming for sure. In any case, make sure you’re subscribed so you can keep up to date on all of our new content. All right. Each episode we like to highlight a ebike friendly location around the country, sometimes the world. Maybe there’s just a good trail. Maybe there’s some cool ebike friendly infrastructure. Uh but this week we’re doing things a little bit different. We have only done this a couple times. We actually got a recommendation from last week’s episode of the show from a viewer. Uh that person’s screen name is Rick Hexel 7438. And Rick said, “I know you talk about bike paths. I think that you should look at Nachez Trace Parkway. The trace goes between Nachez, Mississippi and Nashville, Tennessee. The trace is 442 miles, limited to 50 miles per hour. Limited access and commercial vehicles are prohibited. Rode the trace in mid-occtober and the road surface is very good quality. I think this is a must ride for any road cyclist. So, Griffin, you took us, you did some research. I sure did. So, first of all, thank you, Rick, for the suggestion. This was actually a pretty cool thing to learn a little bit more about it. Um, just a lot of stuff going on here. So it does span through three states as John mentioned going from Nachas, Mississippi through Alabama up to Nashville, Tennessee. So it combines just a whole bunch of different cool sites. It’s got some scenic peaceful riding with historic interest and moderate terrain overall. And it’s unique because it’s got kind of varies depending on your source. 440 to 444 miles of road designated by the National Park Service as a bicycle route. So now to be clear, it’s a parkway, so you’re actually sharing the road with vehicles, but there is some built-in advantage for cyclists. Um, there are signs found throughout the entire thing informing drivers to share the road with cyclists. And vehicle traffic is limited to 50 mph. So making it just a little less intimidating when you’re sharing the road. That’s still pretty fast. There’s and there’s also like bathroom stops roughly every 20 m or so along that entire span. So again, pretty like friendly for cyclists, especially when you need a pit stop. That’s good. So a couple of cool like things that you can see and do, which we’ll touch on a little bit more in depth later. There’s like some like stops where you can go look at some really cool old like Victorian style like plantation home things. There is like this sunken road from the original Nachez. Uh there’s like Civil War battlefields. There’s just like lots of really cool stuff you can go out and see, you know, some cool history. Yeah, for sure. Um so more perks for roadies wanting to do it all. It’s get there are cycle friendly bed and breakfast and campgrounds. So for example, the Lynen bed and breakfast looked really cool. Old world plantation looking home. Uh I mean just look at the pictures here, John. It just looks really awesome. Type place you’d want to see. It’s got lots of history built in. Gigantic. Yeah. There’s also like the witch dance campground, which I’m sure you don’t actually have to join a Blackmagic cult to enjoy, but if you are a cyclist, this is a campground dedicated just for cyclists. So, pretty cool here. Um, some other cool stops along the way include some waterfalls. So, I’m always a big fan of those. So, there’s the Jackson Falls near mile po, excuse me, near mile post 404. This is one of the two waterfalls, of course, in the Nach Trace Parkway. Um, but you can see like it’s you continue down like 900 ft of paved road to the waterfall. The water from the waterfall feeds into the Duck River which will lead to the Tennessee River. Then there is Thank you. there is also the Fall Hollow Waterfall uh at mile post 392. So this one is also pretty cool because it’s got once you leave your vehicle you can hear the water descending over the 20ft drop making it you know like a really cool waterfall to check out. Um again just really cool pictures here to see. Um slippery kind of like moisture area of course so approach it with caution but overall just looks really cool. Now, the Natches Trace uh Parkway actually has a cool bit of history as well. This was actually a popular corridor dating back to Native American times that they used for centuries as American and European uh like you know came along. They also used this and a lot of like the like houses along the way kind of got established as like you know uh helping travelers like make it through some like way stations and ins and stuff to stop at. And then this particular like stretch of road is kind of like honoring roughly the same original path. But again, just tons of really cool history that you can kind of like pop off and see in different places if you’re, you know, history buff, the Civil War battlefields are something worth checking out. But all in all, like I said, this was just a really good recommendation from Rick. I actually reached out to my brother who lives in Nashville, Tennessee. He is a big roadie himself and he said he’s done about like the 40 mi at Connect over at Nashville. So, and he reported the same thing. Really cool scenic place to uh ride. All in all, just cool sightes, you know, more mild vibes. you can share a huge stretch of road with national park uh like certified I guess. I don’t know what you want to say there, but uh all in all looks like a really cool recommendation. Yeah, agreed. I I’m a big sucker for history, so this looks cool. The Jackson waterfall looks great as well. Um wow, this is awesome. So, good find, Griffin. Thank you, Rick, for the recommendation. Uh you know, we’re always open to feedback on on this sort of thing or input from you guys. So, if you’ve ridden this trail, let us know how you liked it. And if there’s anything in your area or a path that you’ve ridden that you want us to talk about, be sure to let us know down in the comment section or you can email us at questionslect electricbikereport.com. All right, let’s jump into today’s Q&A section. So, as I referenced earlier, we’ve got a lot of ebike recommendations coming up. So, if you’re interested in that stuff, stick around. But our first question here is a little bit different. This comes to us from a frequent commenter, Gary XT5N on episode 54 of the show. He said, “This may seem like a dumb question, but I’ll ask anyway since I don’t know the answer. At 40 minutes and 43 seconds, you talked about slime and/or tannis armor to help with flat prevention. Is slime meant for tires with inner tubes or tubeless tires? Also, which do you think is better, slime or flatout?” Thank you. Um, this is actually a great question there. It’s not a dumb question at all. There’s a lot of products out there. We don’t know like everything about everything all the time. You learn by asking questions, happy to jump into this one. Um, so regular slime is intended for use with inner tubes. Um, the company does make a product specifically for tubeless setups. So, with slime, you essentially pop out the valve core of the tube, put that in there, seal it back up, inflate it, and then if you do get like a thorn or some sort of like puncture, the slime will go in there, kind of like fill that in so you don’t have the air seep out of it. And then their sealant product works similarly to any uh tubeless setup, which is just you have the excuse me, um, like the sealants consist of like latex mixed with solvent. So when you get holes in the tire again, the latex fills in there and solvent evaporates, leaving the latex sealing the punctures um that way. So our team has tested both slime and flat out. Um but we have more experience with slime in all honesty and we’ve used this in all of the tires of our test bikes and the number of flats we’ve experienced has been cut down drastically. John and I were actually talking about it’s like you remember like range testing and how frequently we got calls from the range testers saying, “Hey, sorry, got a flat like need to pick up.” like we we have both also been out there and you know it was a weekly or twice a week occurrence it felt like and we’ve had that happen as well and then once we started putting Slime in every one of the every one of the uh test bikes that we get in like it has drastically cut that down to dang near zero in all honesty. So uh Slime we’re big fans of that. We could recommend that and flat out not # not a sponsor. # not a sponsor. Yeah. This is just us. We’re just telling you what what we use but yeah if they want to sponsor us we’re always listening. Slime. Agreed. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Anyh who, um, so flatout might work better for folks who don’t live in the desert where tons of plants have spiky things and find their way into your tires. Uh, it hasn’t been as successful as slime for our team members who have used it, but again, you know, both are out there. We just steer you towards slime. I I like to think of living in the desert as like everything wants your water, so it has it has pokey things to get pokey things. Yeah, exactly. Anyway, yep. All right, so our next question comes from TS 3871 from the Electric XP Light 2.0 0 YouTube uh video who says, “I am 6’4” with 220 lb with a 34 in inseam. So, I realized this bike isn’t the right size for me, but given I see so many people riding tiny compact ebikes for city errands, I’m wondering if this would be okay for my 3mile entirely flat commute to work. I was thinking 98% throttle only commuting. My main interest in this bike is due to the weight. I have a flight of 18 stairs to reach my apartment. Good. Yeah, good for throwing that out there. I mean, honestly, just looking at this and how you’re planning to use this and, you know, where you live and all all of the factors here, I think this is going to be a great fit for you, to be honest. Um, so the recommended height range for the XP8 2.0 is 4’8 to 6’2. That puts you, you know, just slightly outside of that. And in most cases, you shouldn’t have a whole lot of problem with that. But, you know, with this bike in particular, as well as, you know, many of Electric’s bikes over the years, they may look relatively small, but as far as their fit goes, like they’re very accommodating and I would say better than they than they look. Um, and then in terms of weight, this is actually one of the lighter weight folding ebikes that we’ve tested. It’s under 50 lbs. I think it’s 47 1/2 if I remember correctly, but that includes the weight of the battery, and you can always take the battery out to make the bike lighter and easier to lift up a flight of stairs. Now, if you were planning to pedal 98% of the time instead of throttling 98% of the time, you might have some slight discomfort uh just pedaling, but especially with how rarely you’re looking at pedaling, I don’t think it’s going to be a problem. The throttle should work like a charm. Um, when it comes to our testing, we typically only do throttle only range tests on moped style ebikes. So, not ones like this. Um, but generally speaking, just as a rule, you can expect less range on throttle than we get in our high power range tests. So, uh, in this case, the XPite 2 went a little over 19 mi in PAS5. Um, so even if you, you know, end up with just half of that, uh, your commute should still be covered and then you should still have some range left over. So, and, uh, Griffin, correct me if I’m wrong, but I believe there’s also a long range version of the XP Lite 2. Is that correct? Uh, if I remember right, yeah, I think they have the two different batteries. That’s what I thought. So, yeah, you could look at that as well. Um, but yeah, we’ll talk about this more later on, but electric’s got some good stuff going on right now with included accessories and uh, if I remember right, looking yesterday at their website, um, things are in the XP Lite 2 comes with like fenders and a cargo rack, which just helps outfit it a little better. But yeah, anyway, uh moving on to uh speaking of electric, a question on the electric express 750 review on YouTube from uh Good luck. Yep. Aera. A put it on the screen. You guys 1086, something like that. Yeah, I apologize if I butchered your name, but anyway, uh this commenter says, “I live in Vegas and I’m looking for an ebike that can maintain consistent 28 mph on my daily commute, which is around 6 miles each way without too much pedaling effort, so I don’t arrive too sweaty. It is mostly flat with a 1.5 mile and around 1.1% incline. What would you recommend?” Um, so honestly, you’re going to have a pretty easy time with this. I would say like overall there are several bikes that can easily get uh up to 28 mph without a ton of rider input required. Um so we’ll kind of like stick here on the video you’re commenting on talking about electric because their approach with recent models has been blending the feel of a torque and cadence sensor. Typically the higher PAS level you go the more you kind of leave that torque feel and enter a little bit more cadence territory. Just becomes easier but you still have that if I push harder it gives you more um sensation which is always nice. So I’d probably start with the um I mean the express is a good one. You could look at that, but uh personally I would lean towards the XP4750. It is just super powerful, very comfortable, very well equipped, and just awesome, awesome value. You’re looking at about $12.99 for that bike. John touched on sales going on right now with Black Friday, so we’ll uh look that more later on. But again, just really good and easy time getting up to higher speeds there. Um the X Peak 2.0, which is their fat tire eBike, another one that’s very powerful and it’s very stable, too. if you want, you know, a little bit more of a comfort ride. It’s going to be suitable for relatively rough off-roading as well. It’s got some like nice um safety standards passed on like the fork and stuff that they use. So, if you want to get a little adventurous and go off-roading, you can do that as well on that bike. So, another brand that kind of sprang to mind was Mock Wheel. Uh they leaned into very easy pedaling. They do have torque sensors, but somewhat electric, very easy time to activate that torque sensor, and the speeds can reach and sometimes slightly ex exceed 28 mph. Um, sticking with like more of a commuter vibe, we’ve got the the Tarmac. Um, sporty commuter, very loweffort pedaling and has a pretty cool look to it. We’re actually like really impressed with the tarmac. Definitely. Um, that’s the one with 29 in tires too if I remember right. So, a little bit of a taller thing, but uh that’s something I personally like. Um, there’s also the Basalt, their flagship fat tire. Um, it’s big, it’s powerful, it’s stable. It’s even got that power station capability. So, if you want to add on some of the accessories and run the inverter, you can actually take that thing camping with you. It can power some of your electronics and other devices. So again, just a cool bike with some optionality. And then the last brand that kind of jumped to mind for this question was Velri. Um it’s got a really wide range of highly customizable bikes. So there’s a little bit like something for everybody. And there’s a lot of tuning options you can kind of play with there. So the Discover 2 is one of their uh best models for sure. It’s powerful, but it’s also very comfortable. Kind of like halfway between commuter and cruiser styling. Um it’s got torque and cadence sensing modes that you can actually switch. So, if you want again easy pedaling, I’d go into the cadence sensor mode. Uh, just run that on high power. Going to be doing fast speeds with very little effort. You can also get the Fold One Plus. So, this is a lighter weight, you know, like relatively for a folding bike. Um, but it’s got nice handling as well, and it has the Caden sending models also. So, honestly, any of those bikes are going to be good options. We think you can hit the speeds without working up too much of a sweat. Um, we’re going to leave links to all these bikes down in the video description, but again, there’s just really a ton of options here. There’s a lot of bikes that uh you know make 28 miles per hour riding very accessible, but I’d maybe start your search with these ones. And as always, if you do pick one of them, please let us know. We always love the follow-up. Definitely. All right, for our next question, this comes to us from TAJ from last episode of the show, who says, “Great show. I need your advice. I am looking for an electric bike that’s outside my recreational use. would be suitable to load and unload in the back seat area of an F-150 for commutes of up to 10 mi round trip in very hilly areas. I am not in great shape. I am hoping to get all that or I’m hoping to get that 10 mi out of 50% or less of the battery so I don’t have to keep it fully charged or go to empty. I have been looking at electric scooters, but ebikes seem more attractive because of size of the wheel, comfort, and pedals that act as range extenders and allow me to ride them in more places. I have tried the Urtopia Carbon 1 ST. I loved the power delivery. The weight at only 36 lbs and the larger sprocket in the back climbing hills. Despite the motor size, it seemed enough for slow climbs. I hated the display, but main concern was the small battery size. And I wonder if I regret not having a throttle. Also, it felt a bit small. I am 5’7 and 150 lb. I love to get as much range and power as I can, but I’d rather not go over 50 lb. On a side note, a faster charger to use in my truck along with a more affordable second battery could put my range anxiety to rest. What do you recommend? All right. First of all, thank you so much. It’s very helpful to have that much like detail like some of these times where shot in the dark. I’m going to make some assumptions, but uh this has lots of good qualifications. So, um John here came up with a couple of bikes worth checking out. Yeah, I I just wanted to like kind of hit the the list of sort of criteria here again. So, uh let’s see. We’re looking at something that fits in the back seat area of an F-150. Uh 10 basically gets 20 m out of their entire battery or more. Um something that has a throttle, something that has good battery capacity range, and uh yeah, something that’s not over 50 lb. So that was a fair amount of criteria and and we kind of scratched our heads a little bit on this a little bit yesterday just trying to come up with everything uh something that met all of those points of criteria. Um and so again we are kind of making some assumptions here. I think it’s worth pointing out like I have to start with a caveat that I I don’t know the uh interior width of an F-150 and I there really wasn’t great information available online about that. usually like decent like area especially I think the seats fold up or something like that but again yeah yeah I mean I don’t know in in any case like if you’re if we came up with two bikes and you know if these work you might need to take off like the front wheel uh but we’ll talk a little bit more about that later on. So got a couple options here again on the lighter side. So this is the Trek FX Plus1S and the Ride OneUp Roadster V3. Uh and also the regular Trek FX Plus1 would be fine as well. The only distinction is 20 and 28 mph between the nonS and S models. Uh but anyway, so yeah, both have powerful motors, respectable battery size and range. They both have torque sensors for responsive power delivery. Uh so they will feel pretty similar to the Arttopia that you tested there. Um they both have great climbing capability for their category and they both weigh under 50 lbs. So we’re checking at least most of the boxes here. So I give you a couple uh just takeaways from each bike here. here. So, the FX Plus1S, we got 30 and 52 mi of range with the bike’s non removable 520 watth battery. Um, so you can’t take it out, you can’t, you know, put a new one in, but it is relatively high capacity. Um, the only city ebike uh with a throttle to complete our hill test, which is a very big deal. Um, especially coming from, you know, a bike with a 500 watt motor. Like, that’s that’s pretty impressive. Uh, this bike also has a relatively fast charger. So, it’s a Trex easy mag charger. It has 2.7 amps of output. Um, and then it just connects really easily. There’s a charge ring indicator on the actual charger so you can mount it on the wall and actually see how charged your bike is. Pretty cool looking charger. It definitely is. And then it also uh pairs with the Track Central app uh the bike and um the uh well, yeah. So, the app contains some battery life extension features that kind of tie in a little bit with the charger there. Um, the bike has pretty easily easy and relaxed pedaling. Uh, it kind of is similar to what the bikes that we were looking at just previously where uh, you know, you don’t have to put a lot of effort to get a lot of return from the motor. Uh, but then other cool things that the Trek Central app does there, there’s uh, you can get navigation, there’s you know, the GPS map. It actually gives you like a visual representation of how far you can travel on your current charge. They call that the Range Cloud, which is pretty cool. Uh, and then this is, yeah, one of Trek’s more affordable bikes. It did go up a little bit in price recently, uh, but it is right around $2,100. So then the other recommendation, the Ride OneUp Roadster V3. That one um, has I would say a little bit more of an active feel, very responsive pedal assist system, very powerful motor. one of our, you know, favorite bikes from the past year. Required a little bit more input, but you get like greater output. Interesting. Okay, good, good clarification there. Uh, so that one was a little bit lower in range, but there’s a caveat here. So, we got 17 and 49 mi of range. Uh, so that was a removable 360 battery, so you would, you know, in theory be able to get an additional one and swap that out if you have that range anxiety. Um, this one, you know, again, one of our fastest hill test results, uh, when it comes to pedaling for the category. And then this one is interesting because there’s both a chain and a belt drive version, but Ride OneUp actually just released a version with a chain drive that also has a suspension fork. So, that would give you a little bit more comfort on the ride. Uh, we haven’t had our hands on that version of the bike yet, but fingers crossed we get that soon. Uh, and then this one is a little bit more affordable as well. So, it’s between $14 and $1,500 depending on the drivetrain and suspension option that you choose there. So, um, I did talking earlier about maybe taking the front wheel off if it if you need to for the F-150. Uh, neither of these bikes has a quick release front wheel, unfortunately. Um, but they do have through axles, so that makes the handling uh, you know, very crisp and the overall stability of the bike uh, feel feel very good. So yeah, hopefully those options work for you. If you, you know, don’t find that those do work, then, you know, give us more information. We’re happy to keep digging and help you find something. But that applies to anyone. You know, we’re part of our job, part of why we do what we do. We like helping you guys. We like steering you towards the bike that really fits your situation, your budget, what you’re looking for. So yeah, always feel free to reach out to us and we’re happy to to you know, point you in a direction just, you know, like this question is a good example of um you know, the more detailed that, you know, we can get about your situation, the better. Absolutely. But that’s going to do it for this week’s questions. All right, everyone’s favorite section where John and I save you money. That’s right. We’re talking deals of the week of the week. Deals of the week. All right, and the concept of Black Friday is dead. We are officially in Black November. The ebike uh industry is just the starting all the sales early. So, we’ve got a lot to talk about. We’ll give you the highlights and a couple of bikes we like, but we’ll kind of move through this one a little bit quicker. So, John, want to start us off? Yeah, sure. Let’s talk about electrics Black Friday deals. So, there’s total savings up to $800, but as always, most of that is going to be in the form of included accessories with the bikes. So, the one that jumped out to me is the Express 750. So, that uh is the standard $1299 price, but it comes with fenders, a cargo rack, side mirrors, a suspension seat post, and some other things. So, just uh you know, as it shows up at your door, it’s very well equipped. Absolutely. Uh next one up is Hey Bike. They’ve got deals ranging up to $800 off. One that caught my eye was the Ranger S, which is their very powerful folding bike. Looks really cool, too, with some mag wheels. That one’s now $400 off, $14.99 down to $1099. So, nice. Next up is a Venton’s Black Friday deals. So, they’ve got uh up to $500 off, but the things that stood out to me the most were uh the Adventure 3 and Level 3 are both $200 off. So, those are the newest iterations of those bikes, and they are both among our highest rated ebikes in each the fat tire and commuter styles, but also just across the board. And next, next we have Velrix Black Friday sale. So, they’re doing taking up to $600 off select models. So, savings on the company’s bestselling bikes comes in the form of accessories. Uh the Discover 2 commuter and cruiser hybrid is $100 off and includes a suspension seat post valued at $120. So one of their top rated uh bikes gets a little more comfort and more affordability. Nice. Yes. Uh next up we have Rad Powerbikes Rad deals. So there’s up to $600 off there. Uh so some of the bikes include free accessories worth around $200 while other bikes actually have bigger markdowns. And the one that jumped out to me here is the Rad Rover 6 Plus. This is, you know, a little bit of an older model, but uh it’s $1,000, making it just one of the most affordable bikes of its size and style. Plus, you’re getting that trademark Rad Powerbikes approachability and quality and reliability. So, yeah, absolutely. And then the last one we’ll touch on today is Mock Wheel’s Black Friday sale with bikes as low as $8.99, which is just kind of bonkers. Um, but one that caught our eye was the Obsidian. They’re all terrain behemoth. That ebike is going for just $1,900 right now with tons of power, good range, all that good stuff you want in an off-roader. And then another one that actually caught our eye, too, was the Asphalt ST, which is a city cruiser commuter hybrid. $1,300 on that one. Uh, not enough love is I think the direct quote from John. It is like, yeah, I reviewed that bike quite a while ago and I feel like it doesn’t come up enough. It’s a really good bike. So, yeah, if you’re interested in any of that stuff, we’ll leave links down in the video description. All right. Each and every week, we like to show our appreciation for you guys, our audience, by picking one member who has commented on a recent review or episode of this show. So, uh, who do we have in our highlight this week, Griffin? So, this week is a comment on the best ebikes for seniors from KW I1F. Uh, short, sweet, to the point, but, you know, I liked it. Appreciate people just sharing their input. So, this person says, “I’m 69 and just bought an Aventure 3 step through. It’s a fat tire bike and it is heavy at 77 lbs, but I like it. They do have racks where you can roll up the bike in the uh onto the rack, so you don’t have to lift it, which at some point I’ll probably buy. Again, the Event Adventure is one of the ebikes that I have recommended the most. And usually the biggest downside is like, well, it’s kind of like heavy, but it’s like again, if you can manage that and like handle it when you’re riding it, trust me, don’t really notice the weight too much. And just a really good, fun, powerful ride. Kind of like you said before, it’s one of the most uh highly recommended ebikes that we have. So, uh again, thank you so much for sharing. Make sure to share your comments, what you’re riding or, you know, just some experiences you’ve had on the ebike, and we will shout you out on the show. As always, if you have stuck around this long, we really appreciate you taking the time out of your day to hang out with Griffin and I as we talk about bikes and cool places around the country and the news and all the other stuff that we cover. Uh, as a reminder, you can uh listen to us if you do prefer that instead of watching. There’s uh podcasts on Apple Music and Spotify. And uh, you know, as always, we look forward to hearing more from you guys. We love interacting with you. So, leave us all of your questions and comments. That’s right. We’ll be back next week diving into all that. But that’ll do it for this episode of the Weekly Recharge. We have tons of ebike recommendations in the Q&A. Wow. Q&A section of this week’s episode. Anyway, the trace goes between Nachez, MS, I assume that’s Missouri, Mississippi, Mississippi, and Nashville, Tennessee. Uh, let’s just restart this section. Did you not learn your postal code like designations? Come on, man. My bad. Okay, what are those dates again? Yeah, exactly. 500,000th ebike. I’m going to read that one over. Bruno, cut that out.
This week on The Weekly Recharge, we break down the latest industry shake-up: Bosch and Germany’s two largest trade associations have officially split from Eurobike, casting doubt on the future of one of cycling’s biggest events. What does this mean for riders, brands, and the future of global e-bike innovation?
We’re also answering viewer questions packed with practical advice and real recommendations:
🚲 Best lightweight e-bikes for riders who need to carry their bikes upstairs or store them in tight spaces.
💪 Best e-bikes for big and tall riders who rely on throttle-only commuting.
⚙️ Budget-friendly, high-torque bikes that balance comfort, power, and range.
Plus, we cover California’s decision to end its e-bike incentive program in favor of EV and hybrid vehicle subsidies, and new model launches including:
Tenways Wayfarer — a 500W cruiser with a torque sensor, 720Wh battery, and 85-mile range.
Marin Lombard E — a Bosch-powered road/gravel hybrid designed for 28 mph performance.
Whether you’re looking for your next e-bike, following the business side of the industry, or just love cycling tech, this episode dives deep into the stories shaping the e-bike world right now.
#Eurobike #ebikenews #bosch #tenways #marin #electricbike #ebikereview #electricbikereport #lightweightebike #throttleebike #bigandtall #commuterbike #electricbikes2025
00:00 – Intro
00:35 – News Of The Week
00:40 – Uncertainty over Eurobike
03:04 – California kills e-bike voucher program
06:35 – New Tenways Wayfarer!
07:58 – New Marin bikes!
10:52 – Trivia Time!
17:56 – Currently Testing & Recent Reviews
19:44 – E-Bike Trail Systems
24:30 – Questions & Comments
24:41 – What about Slime and Tannus Armor?
26:58 – Light e-bike recommendation!
29:40 – Commuter e-bike recommendation!
33:12 – Another compact e-bike recommendation!
40:14 – Deals Of The Week
43:04 – Rider Highlight
44:10 – Wrap Up
44:42 – Bloopers
