It’s almost like there is a cost of entry the other mfgs aren’t paying.. 🙄
Jmauld
Not clicking the clickbait article, but I’ve seen fords and rivians at superchargers, so I’m calling BS on whatever anti-Tesla BS this article is spouting.
Crenorz
I bet the issue is – not enough time for the old guys to make it work :p.
Bet this is a software issue – where each car needs an update, that would mean an in person visit to fix… As well, I know they are having issues with just getting the physical connectors (as they suck at manufacturing)
Here in the UK & EU, most Tesla superchargers are open to all, mainly because we standardised on CCS2 and thus most current EV’s have CCS2 (apart from some Japanese vehicles that use CHAdeMO which is slowly dying a death and most CHAdeMO drivers will need an adaptor soon as most new installs of EV chargers only have CCS2).
I happily charge my Polestar 2 at most Tesla Superchargers in the UK.
tachykinin
I have a Ford F-150 Lightning and can use Tesla’s superchargers.
IM_OSCAR_dot_com
>Nobody is entirely sure why
Hmm
>It probably hasn’t helped that, in April, Mr. Musk abruptly dismissed nearly all of the 500 people responsible for the Supercharger network, including Rebecca Tinucci, who led the charging division.
Truly a mystery
parental92
Classic tesla bait and switch.
Party-Benefit-3995
No need, Tesla Superchargers here in Canada is always full.
chill633
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… because of software delays and hardware shortages.
The delays have fueled speculation that Mr. Musk was having second thoughts about opening up Tesla’s network, possibly because he was worried that access would help other automakers sell battery-powered models and lure customers from Tesla, which has suffered from declining sales.
Tesla eased those fears a bit on Friday when the company’s charging unit posted on X that it had stepped up production of a crucial piece of hardware: adapters that drivers of Ford, Rivian and other car brands need to connect to Tesla chargers.
A Tesla factory in Buffalo is producing 8,000 of the adapters per week, the company said, noting that outside suppliers are also producing the part. Still, it is unclear how fast those adapters would reach electric vehicle owners.
The slow rollout raises questions about the decision that almost all major carmakers operating in the United States made to abandon the Combined Charging System, the standard that most of them used previously, and adopt the North American Charging Standard developed by Tesla. The switch made them vulnerable to the whims of Mr. Musk, who frequently changes corporate strategy and tactics in ways that can surprise even his employees and supporters.
Tesla built the Supercharger network to encourage sales of its own vehicles. By opening up the network, Tesla can make money from drivers of other car brands, who pay per kilowatt-hour to charge. The electric car company also makes money from selling adapters to other automakers.
…
But even most drivers of electric Ford and Rivian models do not yet have access to Tesla chargers because the companies have not received enough adapters from Tesla.
…
There is nothing to prevent Ford and Rivian from buying adapters from other suppliers, but it may not be easy to find firms with the manufacturing capacity and expertise. Adapters from other firms would have to go through an extensive testing and approval process.
Ford told owners of its Mustang Mach-E sport utility vehicle and F-150 Lightning pickup last month that the adapters were delayed by several months because of “ongoing supply constraints.” Ford, which had promised free adapters to owners of its electric vehicles, declined to comment further.
Rivian, which makes electric pickups and S.U.V.s, said “a challenging supply chain position” had led to adapter shortages. In a statement, the company added that it was “ramping up adapter supply as quickly as possible.”
…
But having adapters will not be enough for drivers of electric cars not made by Tesla, Ford or Rivian. Every other automaker still needs to work with Tesla to make software updates for the cars to use the company’s chargers. That first step could drag on for months at the current pace.
…
Some Ford and Rivian owners have gotten tired of waiting and bought adapters from other suppliers whose products are not endorsed by automakers. Their experience suggests that access to the Tesla network makes road trips much easier.
…
The Charging Interface Initiative, the group led by Mr. Logvinov, warns that adapters not endorsed by manufacturers may be unsafe. But Mr. Hester said his worked well. Having Tesla’s network as an option “just reduces your range anxiety,” he said.
straightdge
And when you consider China, Tesla’s superchargers are comparatively slow charging piles.
Weekly-Apartment-587
I see many other cars using superchargers all the time
markhewitt1978
My MG4 has a CCS charging port in the back left so it’s fairly easy to use with Superchargers
duke_of_alinor
A work in progress. I see Rivians using Tesla chargers. Yes, the non standard of CCS ports is a problem for the cheaper to install Tesla chargers.
DelcoInDaHouse
As a Ford Lightning owner I think the pace is just fine 😉
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paywall
It’s almost like there is a cost of entry the other mfgs aren’t paying.. 🙄
Not clicking the clickbait article, but I’ve seen fords and rivians at superchargers, so I’m calling BS on whatever anti-Tesla BS this article is spouting.
I bet the issue is – not enough time for the old guys to make it work :p.
Bet this is a software issue – where each car needs an update, that would mean an in person visit to fix… As well, I know they are having issues with just getting the physical connectors (as they suck at manufacturing)
[Non Paywalled Version](https://archive.is/1yLYu)
*in the US.
Here in the UK & EU, most Tesla superchargers are open to all, mainly because we standardised on CCS2 and thus most current EV’s have CCS2 (apart from some Japanese vehicles that use CHAdeMO which is slowly dying a death and most CHAdeMO drivers will need an adaptor soon as most new installs of EV chargers only have CCS2).
I happily charge my Polestar 2 at most Tesla Superchargers in the UK.
I have a Ford F-150 Lightning and can use Tesla’s superchargers.
>Nobody is entirely sure why
Hmm
>It probably hasn’t helped that, in April, Mr. Musk abruptly dismissed nearly all of the 500 people responsible for the Supercharger network, including Rebecca Tinucci, who led the charging division.
Truly a mystery
Classic tesla bait and switch.
No need, Tesla Superchargers here in Canada is always full.
(Edited down)
… because of software delays and hardware shortages.
The delays have fueled speculation that Mr. Musk was having second thoughts about opening up Tesla’s network, possibly because he was worried that access would help other automakers sell battery-powered models and lure customers from Tesla, which has suffered from declining sales.
Tesla eased those fears a bit on Friday when the company’s charging unit posted on X that it had stepped up production of a crucial piece of hardware: adapters that drivers of Ford, Rivian and other car brands need to connect to Tesla chargers.
A Tesla factory in Buffalo is producing 8,000 of the adapters per week, the company said, noting that outside suppliers are also producing the part. Still, it is unclear how fast those adapters would reach electric vehicle owners.
The slow rollout raises questions about the decision that almost all major carmakers operating in the United States made to abandon the Combined Charging System, the standard that most of them used previously, and adopt the North American Charging Standard developed by Tesla. The switch made them vulnerable to the whims of Mr. Musk, who frequently changes corporate strategy and tactics in ways that can surprise even his employees and supporters.
Tesla built the Supercharger network to encourage sales of its own vehicles. By opening up the network, Tesla can make money from drivers of other car brands, who pay per kilowatt-hour to charge. The electric car company also makes money from selling adapters to other automakers.
…
But even most drivers of electric Ford and Rivian models do not yet have access to Tesla chargers because the companies have not received enough adapters from Tesla.
…
There is nothing to prevent Ford and Rivian from buying adapters from other suppliers, but it may not be easy to find firms with the manufacturing capacity and expertise. Adapters from other firms would have to go through an extensive testing and approval process.
Ford told owners of its Mustang Mach-E sport utility vehicle and F-150 Lightning pickup last month that the adapters were delayed by several months because of “ongoing supply constraints.” Ford, which had promised free adapters to owners of its electric vehicles, declined to comment further.
Rivian, which makes electric pickups and S.U.V.s, said “a challenging supply chain position” had led to adapter shortages. In a statement, the company added that it was “ramping up adapter supply as quickly as possible.”
…
But having adapters will not be enough for drivers of electric cars not made by Tesla, Ford or Rivian. Every other automaker still needs to work with Tesla to make software updates for the cars to use the company’s chargers. That first step could drag on for months at the current pace.
…
Some Ford and Rivian owners have gotten tired of waiting and bought adapters from other suppliers whose products are not endorsed by automakers. Their experience suggests that access to the Tesla network makes road trips much easier.
…
The Charging Interface Initiative, the group led by Mr. Logvinov, warns that adapters not endorsed by manufacturers may be unsafe. But Mr. Hester said his worked well. Having Tesla’s network as an option “just reduces your range anxiety,” he said.
And when you consider China, Tesla’s superchargers are comparatively slow charging piles.
I see many other cars using superchargers all the time
My MG4 has a CCS charging port in the back left so it’s fairly easy to use with Superchargers
A work in progress. I see Rivians using Tesla chargers. Yes, the non standard of CCS ports is a problem for the cheaper to install Tesla chargers.
As a Ford Lightning owner I think the pace is just fine 😉